[sailor]

True... true....

Than again, when you keep saying "NO" to every proposal and suggestion, keep firing rockets, sent suicidebombers, let those terrorist hide between your people, or even helping them, knowing that if your enemie attacks he will make a lot of casualties among your people.

Or when a school, or something like that, is build during the day and destroyed again during the night, because it is 'unislamic' and it's 'Allah's will', than yeah, that is not willing to be helped and develloped in my book.

[One_of_us]

sailor, on 20 November 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Keep on dreaming...

It takes two hands to clap. You have to ask yourself: do these people want to be helped? I am affraid not. Same goes for Afghanistan, Pakistan and the such.

I know I am generalizing now, but as long as those people are underdevellopped - except for the Jews - where they are unable to look even a millimeter further than their nose is long* - this situation will go on and on at the cost of many lives, material and money.


* Translated Dutch saying

I hadn't noticed that the Duch have such long noses, but I trust you if you say so.

Are you sure that people in need don't want to be helped? It must be hard to have to run to escape the bombs, and then have to pick up the pieces left of your family members

Not all Palestinians are ignorant and worthless. And not all Americans and Dutch are smart and valuable.

[sailor]

One_of_us, on 20 November 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

Hopefully some of his magic can work to help resolve the conflict in the Middle East...

Keep on dreaming...

It takes two hands to clap. You have to ask yourself: do these people want to be helped? I am affraid not. Same goes for Afghanistan, Pakistan and the such.

I know I am generalizing now, but as long as those people are underdevellopped - except for the Jews - where they are unable to look even a millimeter further than their nose is long* - this situation will go on and on at the cost of many lives, material and money.


* Translated Dutch saying

[sailor]

One_of_us, on 19 November 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Relax... where have you seen that the best available person is chosen? The best don't get into politics.

Agreed.

You know, history repeats itself. During the Great Depression - Roosevelt inhereted from the Republicans - Roosevelt was challenged by the ancient Mitt: Wilkes. Wilkes kept saying that the government spent wayyyy too much money with its New Deal. He claimed he could do just the same by spending way less money. However, there was just one tiny little detail he forgot to mention: how?

As we all know now, some things out of the New Deal are still working since than: Social Security, the TVA, dams, roads, just to name a few.

[One_of_us]

Today I was watching episodes from Obama's tour to Asia, in particular his visit to Burma. It was such a positive occasion that he and Hillary made of their interactions with the people there, I felt that this is the kind of leader that the US needs to keep our good relations with the rest of the world.

Hopefully some of his magic can work to help resolve the conflict in the Middle East...


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[One_of_us]

sailor, on 19 November 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Relax.... That is why I said 'economy-wise'. Ruling a country however means and takes much more than that.

Economy-wise, of course. That's what I have been talking about. If we want to look at social issues, the republicans are the worst of the worst!

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Is the best available person chosen? I don't know.... probably not. That, however, is due to your system. That is also why I am against it. It is not a matter of intelligence, competence or anything like that. No, it is a matter of mud slinging and committing caracter-murder on each other in order to rake as much money in as possible.

I know this is a dreamworld, but if they would say "each of you are allowed to collect 10 million and that is where you have to work with"... wouldn't that force them to focus on things that really matter?

But that is just me....

Relax... where have you seen that the best available person is chosen? The best don't get into politics.

[sailor]

Relax.... That is why I said 'economy-wise'. Ruling a country however means and takes much more than that.

Is the best available person chosen? I don't know.... probably not. That, however, is due to your system. That is also why I am against it. It is not a matter of intelligence, competence or anything like that. No, it is a matter of mud slinging and committing caracter-murder on each other in order to rake as much money in as possible.

I know this is a dreamworld, but if they would say "each of you are allowed to collect 10 million and that is where you have to work with"... wouldn't that force them to focus on things that really matter?

But that is just me....

[One_of_us]

sailor, on 18 November 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Well, i tend to agree with you. However, Jetz isn't totally wrong, I think. I think too that, economy-wise, Mit would be a better president.

Your expert opinion is probably based in the great prosperity that the 8 years of G.W. Bush brought to America, after the disastrous recession that came at the end of the Bill Clinton's 8-year reign. Yes?

Or is it your feeling that Romney being such a sleezy bloody dealer capable of screwing everyone and taking their money, could do the same for the whole country and have America prosper by wheeling and dealing with the rest of the world? Which countries would you like to economically lose to America? The Netherlands?

In your case being a foreigner, it is acceptable that you think this way. But it is amazing how the idea is ingrained into so many Americans that "republicans are good for the economy". Maybe because so many rich are republicans, and therefore it is 'smart' to be one too?

The reality seems to be quite different. The rich are republicans because republicans favor the rich. Nothing bad with this except that this screws the rest of the population. Discussing this topic can be quite long, but one proof that we will be better off under a democrat admimistration is the fact that in no time did the economy better recently than under Bill Clinton.

[sailor]

Well, i tend to agree with you. However, Jetz isn't totally wrong, I think. I think too that, economy-wise, Mit would be a better president.

Than again, leading a country is so much more than economy alone. Things like Obamacare, saving industry and the such is a good (socialist)thing, although economycally bad.... On the other hand, as soon as a socialist is beginning to know or understand something about the economy, he isn't a socialisy anymore (every $ in someone else's pocket is in the wrong place).

Than again, what if those industries had gone bankrupt, what to do with those hundered of thousands of people out of jobs? Tell them "if you really want, you'll find another job very soon"? Yeah, right.

[LFM]

Keep harping on ur birther conspiracy. Were any previous presidents touted to proof their citizenship. This smacks of racism.

Talking abt immigration, did PAP manipulate and cheat their way into re election by allowing tonnes of new citizens in???

You were the one that quoted articles that Obama did record number of deportations and border kills, now u are saying too many Hispanics and Latinos voted for him?? U must have been sprouting lies so many times that u dont even now what is reality now beyond your small bubble.

Your side lost despite spending millions and millions of dollars, way more than Democrats. With so much more money and u still lost? What a joke.

If there is anything good abt ur return from shameful hiding, its that we have the opportunity to gloat at Republican's defeat and celebrate Obama's victory in your face!

[sailor]

One_of_us, on 17 November 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

How cute!

Since they returned your internet privileges at Woodbridge, you didn't bother to check that we American People chose again the "Warmongering Terrorist Obama" as our president.

But why you care? You have nothing to do with America, poor soul, buried alive in a mental institution on the other side of the planet.

So please leave Obama alone. He is OUR president, not YOURS. Turn your paranoia to some other target.

Oh leave him alone.... his grapes are sour enough as it is....

(The grapes are sour = he cann't take and admit his loss like a man).

Now we are stuck with this looney for four more years....

Maybe we should put him up for chairman of the House.... the Nuthouse, that is????

[sailor]

jetguyz, on 17 November 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

Why is it so difficult for you to answer questions when you don't understands something yet make false claims and spew lies?Such a clueless dumb hypocrite....tsk...tsk

Hey English teacher..... your English teacher will be very proud of you!

[One_of_us]

jetguyz, on 17 November 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

Warmongering Terrorist Obama strikes again...minutes after winning Re-Election.

How cute!

Since they returned your internet privileges at Woodbridge, you didn't bother to check that we American People chose again the "Warmongering Terrorist Obama" as our president.

But why you care? You have nothing to do with America, poor soul, buried alive in a mental institution on the other side of the planet.

So please leave Obama alone. He is OUR president, not YOURS. Turn your paranoia to some other target.

[jetguyz]

Warmongering Terrorist Obama strikes again...minutes after winning Re-Election.

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Obama Bombs Yemen Hours After Winning Reelection

John Glaser, November 07, 2012

Not even a full day had passed before newly reelected President Obama ordered another drone strike in Yemen.

A U.S. drone strike targeted a group of al-Qaida militants on the outskirts of the Yemeni capital Sanaa on Wednesday night, killing at least three terrorists, government officials said.

Huffington Post:

A White House spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. If it were a American strike, of course, it would have to have been authorized by Obama.

The drone war violates both domestic and international law, and the Obama administration’s vehement disdain for transparency in government is the only thing keeping it from public and legal scrutiny. Beyond the law, it’s terrorism.

[jetguyz]

Sailor might want to note that there are plenty of foreigners who despise Obama, and that sailor`s narrow clouded prejudice might be the reason he is where he is today..."the place where the sun don`t shine"...huh.

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Obama victory infuriates Pakistani drone victims

By Randy Fabi and Aisha Chowdhry

ISLAMABAD | Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:41am EST

(Reuters) - The roars celebrating the re-election of U.S. President Barack Obama on television give Mohammad Rehman Khan a searing headache, as years of grief and anger come rushing back.

The 28-year-old Pakistani accuses the president of robbing him of his father, three brothers and a nephew, all killed in a U.S. drone aircraft attack a month after Obama first took office.

"The same person who attacked my home has gotten re-elected," he told Reuters in the capital, Islamabad, where he fled after the attack on his village in South Waziristan, one of several ethnic Pashtun tribal areas on the Afghan border.

"Since yesterday, the pressure on my brain has increased. I remember all of the pain again."

In his re-election campaign, Obama gave no indication he would halt or alter the drone program, which he embraced in his first term to kill al Qaeda and Taliban militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan without risking American lives.

Drone strikes are highly unpopular among many Pakistanis, who consider them a violation of sovereignty that cause unacceptable civilian casualties.

"Whenever he has a chance, Obama will bite Muslims like a snake. Look at how many people he has killed with drone attacks," said Haji Abdul Jabar, whose 23-year-old son was killed in such a bombing.

Analysts say anger over the unmanned aircraft may have helped the Taliban gain recruits, complicating efforts to stabilize the unruly border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan. That could also hinder Obama's plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan in 2014.

Obama authorized nearly 300 drone strikes in Pakistan during his first four years in office, more than six times the number during the administration of George W. Bush, according to the New America Foundation policy institute.

Since 2004, a total of 337 U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan have killed between 1,908 and 3,225 people.

The institute estimates about 15 percent of those killed were non-militants, although that percentage has declined sharply to about 1-2 percent this year. Washington says drone strikes are very accurate and cause minimal civilian deaths.

The Pakistani government says tens of thousands of Pakistanis have been killed in the fight against militants. Many were civilians caught in suicide bombings. Others were killed by the Pakistani army.

"NO DIFFERENCE"

Getting accurate data on casualties and the effects of drones is extremely difficult in the dangerous, remote and often inaccessible tribal areas. The Taliban often seal off the sites of strikes.

While the aerial campaign has weakened al Qaeda, its ally, the Pakistani Taliban, remains a potent force despite a series of Pakistan army offensives against their strongholds in the northwest.

Seen as the biggest security threat to the U.S.-backed Pakistani government, that faction of the Taliban is blamed for many of the suicide bombings across Pakistan, and a number of high profile attacks on military and police facilities.

"We are amazed that Obama has been re-elected. But for us there is no difference between Obama and Romney; both are enemies. And we will keep up our jihad and fight alongside our Afghan brothers to get the Americans out of Afghanistan," said Pakistan Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan.

On Thursday, a suicide bomber rammed the gates of a military base in Pakistan's biggest city, Karachi, killing at least one soldier and wounding more than a dozen people.

Pakistanis were largely indifferent in the run-up to Tuesday's election, expecting little change to the drone attacks regardless of whether Obama or Republican challenger Mitt Romney won.

"Any American, whether Obama or Mitt Romney, is cruel," Warshameen Jaan Haji, whose neighborhood was struck by a drone last week, told Reuters on the eve of the election. "I lost my wife in the drone attack and my children are injured. Whatever happens, it will be bad for Muslims."

Pakistani politician Imran Khan, a vocal critic of U.S. drone strikes, said he believed Obama stepped up the attacks in his first term so he wouldn't look weak on national security.

"I think Obama essentially has an anti-war instinct," he told Reuters. "Without the worry of being re-elected, he will de-escalate the war, including the use of drones. This is positive."

But for Mohammad Khan, who is not related to the former cricketer, the damage is already done.

The February 2009 drone attack that destroyed his home left him as the main provider for 13 family members, forcing him to move to Islamabad and work with a real estate company.

"When the Sandy hurricane came, I thought that Allah would wipe away America," he said. "America just wants to take over the world."

(Additional reporting by Hafiz Wazir in Wana, Haji Mujtaba in Miranshah and Mehreen Zahra-Malik in Islamabad; Editing by Ron Popeski and Robert Birsel)

[jetguyz]

One_of_us, on 07 November 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

I hope we hear back from poor little jetz. It is possible that in the past critical hours he was following the election outcomes he suffered a massive psychotic breakdown with dangerous paranoic seizures from his fear that Obama's victory will bring an end to the world. So his doctors at Woodbridge had to withhold his internet privileges for a while for his protection.

Sure you will hear from me...but the past few days, I have been busy jetting from coast to coast, trying to "clear up Obama`s mess". (or should I say the future mess that Obama supporters have incurred.)

It is tedious to tell people that sorry, in anticipation of higher taxes, harsher energy regulations and the continuation of the Obama Administration higher taxes and big spending cuts across the board, the company have to shed it`s expansion and layoff workers. (esp those who vote for Obama).
Perhaps they (Obama supporters) could seek the hand-outs that Obama promised them for their votes?

Of cos, unlike you, who have no life to speak of, who languished in here posting offensive remarks just to compensate for your own insecurity and pathetic life, it is possible that in the past critical hours you were following the election outcomes so rabidly that you suffered a massive psychotic breakdown with dangerous paranoiac seizures from your fear that Romney`s victory will bring an end to the world. So your doctors at Woodbridge had to allow you extra hours for your internet privileges just so you could satiate your rabidly deranged exhilaration of Obama victory for ]your own protection and save them sedating you with extra doses of sedatives which must be expensive under the Obama`s healthcare plan....

[jetguyz]

sailor, on 07 November 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

My condolences to poor little Jetz.

Jetzie was doing so his very best to make everyone believe that Obama was an ilegal president and virtually worthless.

Millions upon millions of AMERICAN CITIZENS (and not foreigners) thouught otherwise.
Than again, I think they made the mistake not to consult Jetz first....

My condolences to poor old sailor.
Something died and it is still lodged in his brain.

Obama is an illegal president and that`s a FACT, since he has not proven that he is constitutionally eligible.
His refusal to produce his genuine birth certificate and his blatant reproduction of the false birth certificate on his website (even admitted by his own lawyer) is a FACT which clueless Obama supporters seems unable to process in their wayward minds.

It goes to show that "Millions upon millions of AMERICAN CITIZENS" and illegal immigrants which Obama uses them to buy their votes.... are just plain stupid and clueless.
Obama to Legalize Illegal Immigration by Decree; Will Add 800,000 Voters In November

As for foreigners, I believe sailor has been hiding in "a place where the sun don`t sun"...or perhaps sailor is actually in the same place as "OOU"...hmmmm
Why the World Hates Obama...

sailor, on 07 November 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

Than again, I think they made the mistake not to consult Jetz first....

Then again, I think sailor made the mistake of not to consult the Internet first when posting all those false claims and lies.

[jetguyz]

sailor, on 06 November 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

And again.... no answer. Turn things around and act as if these questions came from you, sigh.

Why is it so difficult for you to ask questions when you don't understans something?
Such a clueless dumb hypocrite....tsk...tsk

And again and again.... no answer. Turn things around and act as if these questions came from you, <sigh>.

Why is it so difficult for you to answer questions when you don't understands something yet make false claims and spew lies?
Such a clueless dumb hypocrite....tsk...tsk

[One_of_us]

sailor, on 16 November 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Teach them to jump over their own shadow.....

(Translated Dutch, but I hope you know what I mean...)

Hahaha... I don't pretend to be a good interpreter of the complex mind of the Dutch people...

But it's true that the republicans are good at casting a big shadow on the hopes of the American people

[sailor]

Teach them to jump over their own shadow.....

(Translated Dutch, but I hope you know what I mean...)